I haven’t posted anything for about three months now, and did not intend to.
But constant harrassment by the chief thugs at ESL/Eurosoft has prompted me to add a little more to previous discussions of those scams.
See earlier posts on their stocking trading software for background.
There are two reasons for writing again. Last time I added anything about JBC/CFS/ESL was over a year ago. While others have added comments since, I thought it was worth noting that the product name has been changed from ESL Trader to Eurosoft Trading. It is still the same fake stock trading, stock prediction software.
The name change seems to take place every couple of years. When it became widely know that JBC was a rip-off, it changed to CFS. After word began to spread that CFS was a scam, the name was changed to ESL. Now it is Eurosoft. The software and the people are the same. All the comments made on previous posts about JBC and ESL apply equally to Eurosoft Trading.
If you have been called by them, you should note especially that any websites they refer you to, eg My Money Magazine, Smart Business Service, etc., are fakes. The creation of superficially convincing fake websites claiming to have tested and approved or given awards to their software has been part of their practice from the beginning. See earlier posts for websites which gave glowing reviews to JBC, CFS and ESL – all now defunct.
Writing fake reviews in the name of well-known financial journalists like Anthony Green or John Lloyd is another favourite method of deceiving potential victims. Don’t be fooled! Eurosoft Trading is a scam run by unscrupulous thugs who will promise anything to get their hands on your money.
The second reason for writing again, as I noted above, is that even though I have not written anything on this for over a year, Rhys and the other thieves at ESL Eurosoft continue to try to bully me into removing any information about their ESL Eurosoft stock trading software scam.
This has taken the form of harrassing phone calls, fake blogs and websites criticising my business or making accusations about me, constant attempts to hack into this blog, and signing me up for porn and casual sex dating sites using my real name and address.
Rhys, Gail, Rika, Phil, etc, do you really think this kind of behaviour is going to convince me you are decent, honest hard-working people, and that everything I and others have written about ESL/Eurosoft is wrong? Do you think that behaving in this way will convince others you are the kind of people they can trust and be confident doing business with?
If you spent half the energy and imagination on earning an honest living as you spend on stealing from ordinary people and harrassing anyone who calls you out for it, you would be well off and could have some self-respect as well.
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to post your information on the web, it has saved at least one person, ie me from falling for their fake offer.
we are all a like guilty of trying to get money for nothing and by offering the sort of returns Eurosoft offer they know that some people will fall for it, thinking it is a little risk for a potential large gain. BUT if enough people think like that then it is not a little gain for Eurosoft it is a potential large gain of other peoples money.
Thank you again for helping to save my money.
I have read various posts here in ergards to some not so legitimate companies. I have been with Eurosoft for over 3 years here in the UK and was pointed to this site by a friend who is looking into using the product.
I can’t say anything positive or negative about CFS/JBC or the likes of the other firms mentioned here.
I can say Eurosoft has been giving me a very good service since I started using them for IT support at my company though. And I would recommend them to friends and family.
John I think the Eurosoft IT support company you are talking about is completely unrelated to Australian financial scam of the same name. It is not unusual for scammers to take the name, or a similar name, of a reputable company.
Hi Peter, in researching a company called Eurosoft Pro Tracker I stumbled across your site, I have been harrassed by these people for days! by Simon Taylor 1800797036, they are spruking word for word what CFS and JBC have said? is it also a scam by the same people? I would like others to be aware if they are?
Thankyou
Tonia
Thank you for writing your review of Eurosoft! You saved me from paying $18,000!!!
My dear 83 year old father was phoned up, out of the blue, a few weeks ago by eurosoft. The salesman did a great job on him befriending a very vulnerable person. My dad even told him how vulnerable he was explaining that he full time cares for his wife – my mum – who has severe Alzheimer’s. That he has also just got through chemottherapy for lymph cancer. The salesman assured dad that he would get rich, that there were only 100 copies left, and that even though dad was computer illiterate he could easily work the program. Dad paid $18 000, told my sister the next day who then immediately faxed the company, sent emails, tried to phone to say he didn’t want it. No contract, no cooling off period, no reply, money gone.
I cannot believe that this company can remain doing what it’s doing after reading these posts and other articles on-line. Preying on elderly people at their most vulnerable time has to be the lowest anyone can go and I hope that the people who have my dad’s hard earned money find peace and happiness as they spend it – although karma generally prevails – for that is how my dad would have spent HIS money. Isn’t it about time the media exposes this company so that more innocent people can be saved from these people?
Hi Jane. I am saddened to hear this. Police and regulatory agencies seem unable or unwilling to do anything about this blatant and callous scam.I have been trying for years to interest the TV current affairs shows. Your father’s story might be one they will take an interest in. Please contact A Current Affair or Today Tonight. Letting people know about this gang of scumbags may not stop them, but it will make their thievery more difficult, and may even get your father his money back. Let us know how you go.
I was approached cold call hard sell sounds too good to be true only 2 programs left in victoria. They want $18000.00 for the eurosoft advantage pack if i buy now you only have to pay $4950.00 and the rest when you make your first 30000.00. Couldnt resist so i paid the $4950.00 this was on a friday night so i had some time over the weekend to think about what the hell i just done. I looked on the internet and it came up a bit dodgy so i sent the unopened parcell back when it arrived and demanded my money back now the fun started, wont return my calls wont give my money back they said they didnt recieve it this was over a month ago im thinking of flying to sydney and doing some damage. The man behind Eurosoft in Sydney is James the girl that answers the phone is trained well and just fobs you off its all a bit of a scam, do not touch Eurosoft
Tks for publishing my surname, which I ask to have supressed.
Anyone up for a class action against these crooks?
I’m off to vcat on the 9th of oct so I will let you all know the results
All I want is the address of where the scumbag who has my money is I’m offering a $500.00 reward for the information that gets me face to face with the prick
Anyone trying to get there money back from eurosoft I suggest you find out what account your money went into and who owns the account as you have to have 100 points of I’d to open an account. Eurosoft have been using the NAB to operate from different account holders, find out who owns the account then take the individual to court or turn up at there house and beat the living shit out of them with a bat
Well I had a call from a lady today with regards to the great scam the new name is NETWAY SOLUTIONS or OWS this is the same scam as EUROSOFT the same bloody dodgy websites same award winning software by fake websites. When are these people going to learn the offer still stands $1000.00 reward that gets me face to face with the person behind this scam, and I got my money back. I will personally put them in the boot of my car hog tied and bring them to each and every person that has been ripped off by them and I promise to remove the fingers of the scammer and feed them to my dog. Who wouldn’t dob you in for a grand you son of a bitch.
I just received the brochure from OWS from a guy called Anthony Mitchell (Senior Analyst).
OWS address states Tower 2, Floor 20 Darling Park, 201 Sussex St, Sydney NSW 2000. Anyone can verify it’s existence?
Very persistent in getting me onboard this trading programme but I told him I wanted to read about you first. He’s gonna call me again on Friday as I told him being in WA, the brochure hasn’t arrive yet.
Anyway I took the time to read the brochure and did my sums on their buy/sell trading figures.. guess what.. I think they got a 3 year old to randomly add the sums up. All calculations were incorrect.
If Anthony Mitchell is seeing this, I know you will be hesistant to call me on Friday because I am so waiting for it you son of a bitch.
Oh No! I’ve been had, well and truly. I thought I had some intelligence, but clearly I wasn’t thinking straight on Friday. Lovely ‘Sarah’ had me suckered from the beginning – same line as the posts above. only 3 left in SA, pointed me to the glowing websites and awards. As there was no way I could afford the $18k, I was ‘offered’ the Performance Protection plan – pay half now and the balance once a profit of $30k achieved. Can’t lose right??
I am a stupid woman who should know better but things are so tight financially – amazing what the thought of ‘easy’ money does to you.
So please – can you please advise me how to get my money back?
Deb you should ring your bank ASAP and ask for a charge-back. If you explain that you were misled by the caller, and that the product purchased is a known scam which is being investigated by police, they should be willing to help. If not, call your state consumer protection service. Good luck!
After reading David O’Neil’s poignant letter again, I have two pieces of evidence that reveal monies have been paid into his account – both at different branches of the NAB in NSW. I’d like to thank David’s lawyers for taking this matter to the AFP as it has saved me the job. No matter how insignificant a role you have played David, you are still involved. When you were telephoned by Doug you advised him that you would call another man (John Simpson) and Doug luckily retrieved his money. So, to take the heat off yourself, why not reveal more details of your pal, John. I probably contact the AFP and enlighten them further.
Feel like a real dickhead.Gave up 18900 back in March.Should of realised something was wrong when they said they would refund the money if I didn,t make 30000 in the first 12mths.Even have a letter signed by Martin Gibson CFO confirming this.They got me good.They are not answering phones now so anyone with some advise on how to catch up with these scumbags would be appreciated.I do like the sound of Doug’s plan but would prefer to get money I had to borrow back first.Thanks EUROSOFT!
I feel so sick I have been done over by eurosoft
is their anyone going after this con group
we paid the full amount 18,900 last year
can anyone help
cheers john
I do believe in what goes around comes around
we will get you guys this is a promise
Can anyone identify this David O’Neill sob. It was his account that my hard earned money went to. He apparently lives not far from me and I intend paying him a visit with some heavy backup but need to be sure I got the right guy.
We are in the same boat. We thought we could obtain a refund after our 12 months was up but cannot contact them by phone or email. I really have no idea where to start trying to recover any funds.
I have done a lot of research into these scams and am presently taking action. If anyone would like to get in touch with me, please ask for my contact details through Peter Wales. I know Peter is pretty busy and can take a while to answer emails but do persist!
Hi Scammed
I am not sure how to get in touch with Peter Wales in order to get your contact details.
I have submitted an online claim to the ACCC under the heading of “predictive software”. Any other help in this matter would be appreciated.
Hallo fellow scammees. I have read your postings and would appreciate you contacting me on 0408594242. I am investigating this as I stated in my posting above and can give you some advice on how I am approaching this matter. Don’t give up!
Hallo again fellow scammees. Peter W is very busy and we are lucky that he started up this blog and I don’t mind if you call me on my mobile number which is 0415264021.I would use that number instead of the one in my post of 8/1.(I don’t want to give PW’s contact details without his permission.)I have contacted all regulatory authorities – you name them, I’ve talked/written them including my local MLA, MLC. I now believe that I am on the right track. Do check this website frequently.
Douglas C – do you have receipts, etc. to show that your money definitely went into David O’Neil’s account? If so, how did you get that information? Don’t say anything about how you got the details on this site, instead, give me a call on my mobile.
Stay positive!!!
Well………..surprise, surprise! I have been informed that Eurosoft are answering their phones again. One of the scammees has contacted me to advise me of this. The reason why emails and phone calls weren’t being answered was because they were having holidays! Now isn’t that a professional way to run a business! Just drop off the radar, don’t inform clients and have a virtual holiday. Eurosoft, do you really think people are stupid. So, everyone, get in there and try to get your money back before they go to ground again. LOL
Yet another surprise – all my birthdays have come at once. If you google Reviews on CMC Australia and check their address on the map it is 1 Farrar Place, Sydney. Does that address ring a bell with anyone?
Hit a brick wall from the bank. Other than it went to Eurosoft have no further details to go on. But it doesn’t end there, oh no
Of course Eurosoft are answering their phones again! And, don’t believe them when they say they haven’t heard of other companies, such as ESL in all its incarnations. The booklet that I have of OWS is word for word identical to Eurosoft, however phone number is different – naturally!
These guys are going to be found and going to the UK doesn’t matter. The world has shrunk, thanks to the internet and search engines.
I have just recently experienced misconduct by Eurosoft Services. I ask others reading this blog who have experienced this as well, have you thought about taking a different approach and proceed with legal action against Eurosoft and any other companies that you know may be working in cohorts with Eurosoft? This is what I have now decided to do. I believe this is the only way to stop Eurosoft and similar companies from cold calling and sadly misleading innocent bystanders. Victims can lodge a claim to proceed legally with their State Magistrates Court for approximately ($234) and there’s an option to seek legal advice from the Citizens Advice Bureau for $30 for 20 minutes with a lawyer.
Some of you may find it an interesting and a beneficial exercise to discover some directors names that may sound familiar when you search and buy extracts ($9 each) on the ASIC website for Eurosoft Services and other companies with the name Eurosoft included in part of their company title. It may be useful for those following the Qohel blog on Eurosoft to also look at a company called Eurosoft Worldwide Pty Ltd and buy that company extract ($9). Some of you I think will be very surprised.
Go to http://www.asic.gov.au and select ‘Business Names’ on the top bar – ‘Search for a Business Name’, click on ‘ASIC Connect’ and you will be taken to ‘Search ASIC Registers’ home page. Select ‘Organisation and Business Names’ and type in ‘Eurosoft’. A few companies pop up which you can buy extracts for if you so wish to.
If you think in anyway you have reasons and evidence for malpractice by Eurosoft Services and any other subsidiary company that may of applied recently for deregistration, you can report a complaint to the ‘Misconduct section’ at ASIC and most importantly request a ‘Deferral of voluntary deregistration’ to the Manager at Registry Services ASIC. This will give you some time to take your claim to the courts. It’s important that any company that you proceed legally against stays ‘registered’ or in a ‘strike off’ position so that you can claim for damages. If the company becomes deregistered it maybe more difficult to achieve the results you want without the court reinstating registration of that company. Visit this link http://www.asic.gov.au//asic-initiated-deregistration to find out how a 3rd party can defer deregistration. To report any misconduct to ASIC, go to the ASIC website and click on ‘About ASIC’ and then ‘How to complain’.
It could be a good idea to continue to keep a mindful eye on the ASIC ‘Registers’ section and the ‘Scam’ section atwww.moneysmart.gov.au/scams for any up to date notices for the companies that you feel have wronged you.
From what I have read on this blog and other blogs many of you have already reported misconduct to your State Police, State Department of Commerce and Consumer Protection and Australian Competition and Consumer Council (ACCC) and feel you may have not got very far with your complaint. However, for those that have not done this still think seriously about reporting (in writing) to these institutions mentioned above as well as ASIC. These organizations of authority need to know about every complaint because it builds a case and an awareness of the misconduct performed, and then hopefully this will attract more attention, then more investigation followed hopefully by a class action. This could become an Australian Federal Police issue to investigate(if it hasn’t already) if there are enough complaints.
Like many of you I have expended a lot of energy to regain my funds. It is a very challenging for any individuals to resolve this by themselves when the business address of these companies become invalid, or there’s no phone numbers or email addresses to communicate with once the money is received.
I have now dropped all my humiliation associated with feeling deceived by Eurosoft Services to take my case to the next step. If there are others out there that have felt like myself, then consider going that extra hard yard to take legal action, if you think it may benefit you and others. It’s your choice to act or not to act, to seek some legal advice at $30 for 20 minutes or go to your State Magistrate Court and make a claim against Eurosoft and any other associated companies if you feel they used unsolicited and misleading selling techniques on you. In my case I felt I was misled by Eurosoft, they created many diversions until they had my hard earned money and then they very quickly ceased communication. They refused me an instant refund within the ‘cooling off’ period I was entitled to. We all know that a reputable company that operates in an ethical manner will offer a cooling off period and a fair return and refund policy to keep a happy customer.
I do suspect there are people that have been adding to this blog that are working against the complaints made by the innocent victims of Eurosoft, however I do hope that other bloggers see through any of their responses. I sincerely wish all the genuine bloggers and others (that have suffered any sort of hardship from this type of injustice) the best of luck in regaining back what is rightfully yours. Hopefully we can all make a difference and also create awareness to stop others from being affected.
Another victim here. Feel very stupid for getting involved with these people.
I’m afraid to say me too!Have contacted them by mail and phone. . .still waiting for the call back!
I have been contacted by one of your members to inform me of your great website.
I (we) have had a very similar scam perpetrated by scammers over many years. I have many contacts with people who have been scammed by these various companies – see the website – http://www.aicinternational-complaints.com
As we were intially harassed for demanding some intervention from the authorities we were forced to play the same game as the scammers and set up a website that is totally untouchable by the courts or the criminals in Australia.
Our website is set up in a country that guarantees freedom of speech – similar to Wikileaks that was in Sweden.
The scammers that run the companies you are talking about appear to use exactly the same techniques that our scammers used so I would make an assumption that they are the same company or the same people running these scams.
The authorities are extremely slow to react even when they are given proof of fraudulent behaviour by these people – we have tracked ours back many years and millions of dollars worth of scams.
We will add a site to highlight these criminals and will use the same tactics we employed to curtail the criminals we were dealing with. We utilised google to play the same game the criminals were doing – try typing in any of the company names we were dealing with and you will find hundreds of entries coming up highlighting the sites are scams – the use of google (legally from overseas) is no different than the criminals do by setting up false sites to sell their crap products.
The authorites (I have spoken to most of them) are so under funded, under resourced and unskilled at chasing these people down that I would not hold my breath waiting for them to act. They openly admit they will never catch these people and legally cannot shut them down as their websites are overseas – WE WILL.
you can contact me at inspector@5ymail.com
The website will go up shortly as well as several hundred google responses to your scam companies.
If you have any comments you want added to the site – YOU CANNOT be sued for defamation or slander as you do not need to give a name.
We had enough waiting for the authorities to do something and we were offered a refund by the sacm artists to shut down our site – but them we found out the hundreds of people who have been scammed.
Good Luck
If they have a data feed we could make a direct denial of service attack on their site, which is illegal in Australia but not from where the attck will come from.
These people are experts at using the law to protect themselves.
Dave, a group of us has done all that you have suggested and are now taking an approach that will hopefully get us somewhere. I have put my mobile number on this website if you want to call me. The regulatory authorities I have been in touch with, including a community lawyer are stymied by privacy laws, (or couldn’t really give a toss) not being able to direct a person to a lawyer or others who may be able help. They can only suggest – bit like ESL, Eurosoft, who say “a lot of our clients have bought Newcrest” – of course this is not giving financial advice”.
Scammed too, would love to be involved in any action taken both legally or otherwise.
To those responsible your world gets smaller by the day.
My offer still stands $1000.00 reward to the person who gives me the home addresses of John Simpson and Mark Thompson from eurosoft
hello people
I think things are going to change soon eurosoft will be out of the scam business soon
cheers john
OWS OPERATE OUT OF THE ANZ BUILDING IN SURFERS PARADISE
THE BUSINESS NAME IS QCL JUST TURN UP ON THERE DOOR STEP WITH A BAT
THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE AS ESL AND EUROSOFT
our 12 months is up and have been trying to contact Eurosoft ever since via email and phone. I am keen to get these guys and our money back. I feel sick to the stomach.
our 12 months is up and have been trying to contact Eurosoft ever since via email and phone. I am keen to get these guys and our money back. I feel sick to the stomach.
Just got through to Eurosoft receptionist who was told by a man in the back ground ‘do not engage in a conversation with her….hang up the phone’. Venting here, just feel soooo stupid.
Netway Solutions is not another re-badged name of any of these bogus companies. It is a separate company altogether and supports the share trading platform, downloading end of day share trading prices. ‘sicktostomach’ can contact me on 0415264021 for further advice.
Have had recent contact with Consumer Protection in my state. They would like more people to contact them to build more of a case. At present they can’t do much, so take the bull by the horns and tell your story. The review department of CP is looking more closely at the practices of these ‘companies’ and their modus operandi. Names and contact details of the thugs have been given to CP.
Add me to the ripped off list. I bought ESL Close of Market package in August 2011. When I tried to claim my Money Back Guarantee 12 months later I hit a brick wall with all the tactics I have read above. I got a Notice of Order from the CTTT against ESL Investor Services and Quinox Systems Pty Ltd. This orders ESL to pay my money back but it is useless as I cant find them to serve the order on them. I will call some of the numbers above for further advice and to join in on any further actions.
Well guys don’t feel so bad …. none of you are nearly as stupid as I was …. I bought a dual license. Meaning I got scammed twice in the one process. I was told that the duel was a program they gave to their executive investors. Only to find I bought the same program twice, set up with different parameters.
He must have known that a fool is soon parted with his money.
Anyway I persevered and actually tried to make it work and diligently wasted my time going through it each evening for a year and trading only to lose more and more money.
Suspected nothing and foolishly believing that they would honor their commitment to refund my hard earned cash if the program did not deliver…..
Surprise, surprise … as of a week ago I have been cut off so to speak ……..no email responses and no return of phone calls.
Then, albeit a little late, I started looking and came across you guys and girls rowing the same boat or is that a sinking ship.
Initially I was mortified that there were others and many that could ill afford the lose. Then embarrassed and ashamed that I seem to be the stupidest one of all of us and wanted to go and hide.
However that is not in my nature so I am coming clean and admitting my incredible level of stupidity and blind trust.
Now the next step, I would be honored if you would accept me into the group and would be very keen to partake and contribute to any action that is currently underway or is in the process of being actioned.
Has anyone thought of inquiring about a private investigator?
If we share the costs it can’t be that expensive.
These morons have tried to cover their tracks but everyone leaves a trail no matter how small …… we only need a thread to follow.
Once we establish their identity it won’t be difficult to prosecute from there.
‘Scammed’ if you don’t mind I would like to get in contact with you. I would appreciate any advice as to how to proceed.
Nik – did you see my comment of 25th March, 2014.
I really cannot understand a lot of your comments. The names and other information on the people behind these scams have been published on this blog site. Just read all the references and you will discover info in the Chris King, Rhys Adam etc etc etc
I too have fallen victim, have logged claims with NSW Fair trading, and my credit card.
Both are investigating, but i’m not holding my breath for a positive outcome.
People power can win the day, I am encouraged by the support network here, I’m going to write to ASIC to ensure their attempt to deregister their company is delayed beyond July so we can get them to court.
How do these scum bags keep getting away with this. It is out right fraud.Could someone please give me there real names and addresses as I would like to pay them a visit,and introduce them to some acquaintances of mine.ALL THOUGH WE MAY DELAY DE-REGISTRATION we have to try and get our hands on their assets.
Nik I did the same thing as you. I feel so stupid. Worst case for me was that it was borrowed money.I can’t believe that they can get away with blatant fraud . The authorities seem to do very little to prosecute them. Different if I owed a speeding ticket.
I think your idea of a PI is a good one and should not cost us all very much. When we track the scum bags down we can give them the opportunity to pay up or ?????
A new name change has happened. g-t-a.info is the latest website.
Please post any experiences you’ve had here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2278648
That site ranks highly in Google so when a possible victim searches the company name, that thread with your experiences and warnings will show up and hopefully prevent them becoming a victim.
Cheers.
What can I say after reading the above, I feel so stupid but I got a lot of friends by the look of it. I to got scammed twice with the duel. Is their anything I can do to further report or expose these unethical you cant call them people. Anything I can further do to expose them would make me happy.
John W
We’ve just dodged a bullet with GTA…would like to email you, Peter, and tell you the story. Can you reply with your email, please?
I just got scammed on 31st of July 2014 woth GTA trading software 3 days ago, Im trying to find these guys give me info please, whats the best thing to do. How can I give you my detail so you can tell me where these scum bags are i want to find them. I just lost $19,350
Hi Everyone. Me too, I was scammed. Felt incredibly stupid and could not believe that any group could create such a web of lies. Secondly I thought i was protected under consumer law cooling off period, but it seems there’s no help there. So how to get our money back? We have to find them, prove it is the same people and get them stripped of assets. I would really love to see them behind bars. Has anyone been successful in actually meeting them face to face. How about getting together, hire a PI, find them and confront them. I’m happy to go to the media if they can track this crowd down, even if I look really stupid.
Thanks to Peter and others I have just saved some hard earned money and heaps of embarressment.Keep up the great work and thanks again.
I received a glossy brochure in the post today. Another fraudulent company has been born!! This one is called AF Services. They offer “ATP SPORTS TRADER – Our exclusive ATP Sports Trader identifies opportunities when bookmakers’ prices differ by a margin, enough to allow risk-free investments with guaranteed profit, AF COMMODITIES a Commodities Management System to help manage various portfolios including energy, precious metals and much more. AF OPTIONS – A fully automatic, Stock Options trading program which comes pre-defined with automatic trading strategies, perfect for the beginner trader or seasoned professional. AF FOREX – Our practical and easy-to-use foreign exchange trading program uses advanced market patterns to deliver to you the most accurate trades possible.” Sound familiar?
Hi Guys,
If this is Global GTA we are talking about, was almost sold, and I sell for a living!, warning bells started and I still have my $19300. Their address is shown as level 31, 120 Collins street, Melbourne. 120 collin street has three floors!!
Do your research before parting with your hard earned because in most cases it aint coming back !
This morning, was contacted by a person living in Victoria who has purchased a product from GTA on Friday, 19th September. She has contacted her bank and may be lucky enough to receive a refund. Can’t understand why ASIC still lets this company operate!! Will be interesting to see if she does get her money back.
Thanks for the heads up. Been round the block a few times and I nearly fell for this one.Especially you Pete, you have taken a bullet for many. Thank you for sharing and making it easier for the likes of me to make an informed call.
Rgds
GTA are on a sales drive. On 1/10/14 my wife received a large envelope in the mail, a 16 page black, red & white brochure. On 7/10/14 she had a call on her mobile from a GTA sales rep, he was checking to see if she received the brochure & what was her thought of the opportunity? He started his sales pitch but she told him he would have to talk to me! Being in road transport I would home on the 10/10th to ring. at 11am a sales rep contacted me going through the how , when & and now of the opportunity & I could purchase the software for $19400.00. I told him I would discuss it with my wife at 3pm when she was home from work , he told me their was only 4 software packages left for NSW & would check to see if he could hold 1 for me & PUT ME ON HOLD . When reconnected a man calling him self PETER SCOTT the GTA accountant said he that if I didn’t make $30,000.00 in 12 months they would refund the $19,400.00 & I could keep software & opportunity, I told him I would call back after I discussed it with my wife. At 5.15 pm they called back this time on my wife’s mobile and said all NSW were gone but has some left for NT left if I was ready to perches, I told him about the scam.
HI Everyone,
I too have been had for a large amount of money recently. I am reporting them to all authorities and will post back here if l have any luck with the ID or court cases. l also may go to current affairs and the media and will need some other victim testaments. If anyone is interested then please post back here. They are now operating under the name of gobaltech.global if you want to put the word out to the public.
Cheers
Dear Anonymous – I was scammed of over $20K in 2012. I am part of a group of people who have already gone down the track of approaching just about every regulatory authority you can think of to no avail. The best approach you can make is to now contact your department of fair trading, consumer protection, or whatever it is called in your state. Basically, the regulatory authorities don’t want to know about these scams because they are too difficult and time consuming to deal with. Only today I was called by a woman in NSW who has paid out $500 to ‘secure one of the rapidly dwindling’ packages. My advice to her was to get her money back through her bank. If you paid via credit card you may be fortunate to get your money back. You may also like to review my previous entries for my contact details. Cheers, Phillip
To all who have been scammed the people behind the scams involved are being investigated by the office of fair trading Jay Bishop would be your best contact
Rubbish. How do they investigate the people behind it when they pay others to front the companies they use. Peter knows who really is behind these scams
I have just been contacted by Capital Group Holdings in Melbourne with exactly the same offer.
Thank you all for your comments you have saved me many dollars and much embarasment.
Cheers, David
http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/crime-court/telemarketing-fraudsters-sold-bogus-financial-plans-and-illicit-software-to-net-4m/story-fnje8bkv-1227487486947
These guys are associated with Rhys and Phil. At last the Crime and Corruption Commission are doing something.
Direct your complaints to them
You can report here: https://secure.ccc.qld.gov.au/corruption/online-information-only-form/wizard_form
Peter
This is the time to get results. People must lodge their complaints with the CCC
have been scammed by GTA for $37400 for2 programs the CCC is a q/land should I contact them as I believe they operate out of the gold coast or should I contact the ICAC in nsw?
David contact both. Peter you have the email addresses of the people who have posted so shy dont you email them an alert them to the CCC probe
Everyone who’s been scammed should contact the QLD Police’s Fraud and Cyber Crime Group;
FRAUD AND CYBER CRIME GROUP
Queensland Police Service
200 Roma Street
Brisbane, Qld 4000
Phone: 07 3364 6622
Fax: 07 3364 6549
You can download a report form here;
https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/cscp/fraud/Documents/QPS-Fraud-Report-Form.pdf
Be sure to mention the other incarnations of the scam; Eurosoft, OWS, GTA, TRP, etc. Time is of the essence, this is really urgent.
Thank you Everyone who has posted their experience with these scammers-GTA
I too have been scammed out of $19,400! I can’t believe I fell for this very cunning scam which I thought i researched thoroughly before I handed over the last of my savings.
Thanks for the tip, I will try and contact the Victorian fraud squad.
Helloi Tina-
You might also consider contacting the QLD Fraud Squad directly. They are the ones handling the case so it would probably be more efficient if you call them on (07) 3364 6622 and/or fax a completed fraud report form to them on (07) 3364 6549. Sometimes these things fall through the cracks and instead of your report being handed from one person to another, from desk to desk, it’s probably better if you take it the correct destination yourself. It’s unfortunate, but sometimes we need to do their job for them.
I recently recieved 2 seperate invitations from ASIC to participate in surveys rating their response to my latest report. Funny considering they never responded to my report in the first place. Despite the fact that I sent it twice. Clearly they received it, it has a ticket number. I suppose that went into the “too hard basket”. But it’s a perfect illustration of how the authorities which are supposed to police these scams are desperately lacking in both expertise and resources.
Greetings to all of those who have posted comments recently. As these crimes are considered to be within the NSW police jurisdiction, there is no point in contacting Queensland police (a lot of them are probably involved anyway) or your local police unless you live in NSW. I have contacted Q’Land and WA Police who have advised me to contact NSW. My fraud was committed in September 2012 and I have contacted every regulatory authority without success. Fortunately one of my fellow ‘scammees’ in WA demanded of our Premier why something is not being done about this. The matter was referred to Consumer Protection in Perth and Sydney and they are dealing with the matter now. The best action to take is to contact your equivalent of Consumer Protection in your state. It is a well known case with them now and will save you a hell of a lot of heartache and frustration. I have not been on this site for a long time as I was advised by CP to hand it over to them which was a huge relief after 18 months of huge stress, chasing people who I hoped would help. Phillip
Anyone who has commented on this post or been scammed by any of these variations of the JBC, ESL, Eurosoft, GTA, OP Solutions, etc scams , now is the time to act. Please see the most recent two posts, and contact:
FRAUD AND CYBER CRIME GROUP
Queensland Police Service
200 Roma Street
Brisbane, Qld 4000
Phone: 07 3364 6622
Fax: 07 3364 6549